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FTWDTT 076 – The Door (S6E8)
Talking Through The Door
We’re late this time out, but for this episode 76 of Fear the Walking Dead Talk Through, Brian and LT talk through the mid-season premiere The Door. Fear the Walking Dead Season 6 Episode 8 was written by the showrunners Ian Goldberg & Andrew Chambliss and directed by co-executive producer Michael E. Satrazemis.
MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD!!!
If you haven’t seen this episode of Fear the Walking Dead, stop now!!! Go watch it and then come back and listen to us! Unfortunately, we lost a fan favorite this week. John Dorie, who has been a favorite since Season 4, died in this episode. John Dorie was almost universally loved by fans, and Garret Dillahunt was also loved by fans for playing him. I personally believe this is one of those examples that you reap what you sow. This is speculation on my part, but I think the poor storylines of Season 4b and 5, as well as the fan reaction to Garret/John vs. the show, were the reasons why Garret left the show. It was probably a mutual decision. The showrunners probably realized that they needed to kill off a character, and when Garret got wind of it, he probably volunteered.
Chapters
00:00:00 Intro
00:01:36 Feedback from Previous Episodes
00:24:17 About The Door
00:25:10 Ratings
00:29:20 Awesome Sauce
00:51:37 Weak Sauce
01:10:12 What Sauce
01:26:21 Aww Sauce
01:36:02 Listener Feedback
02:17:00 Other Notes
02:24:49 News, Ratings, and Info
02:34:44 Wrap Up
Ratings are even, total viewers are up…
Ratings for S6E8 The Door were even with the last episode, S6E7 Damage From the Inside. It got a 0.26 in the 18-49 demographic, with 1.171 million viewers, improving from the previous episode’s 0.26 and 1.085 million viewers. At the late hour, Talking Dead rated out of the top 150 cable shows Sunday night, with a 0.03 and only 132,000 viewers, down from the midseason finale’s 0.04 in the 18-49 and 254,000 thousand viewers.
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Some blog post comments…
“This is speculation on my part, but I think the poor storylines of Season 4b and 5, as well as the fan reaction to Garret/John vs. the show, were the reasons why Garret left the show.” – basically he wanted to go for greener pastures you think?
Onto the podcast…
Kyle exists – that’s all we need to know. 🙂
Talking “The Walking Dead” on a FEAR episode, that sadly feels accurate given more and more TWD people are coming over to our series now. Ha.
#BringBackMadison!!! 😁
I’m going to actually agree with Brian and say I think it took more guts to kill off John than it did Madison because Madison was just a stupid choice on their part and so to write out another fan favorite like John after such a stupid move is a pretty big deal. I have to wonder now if he hasn’t volunteered who would it have been to get kicked off the show? Did he push for it to be soon so that’s why it happened in the return episode; if they had to wait when would the exit have taken place? “Talking Dead” airs so late now that I don’t bother staying up to watch it so I don’t know if Garrett answered any of these questions or not but it has me curious now. But yeah I’d say even with him forcing their hands it was still a big thing to kill off John so early knowing how popular he is; it’s a good thing they have a renewal supposedly already locked up because doing this without it may have taken that chance away from them. Ha.
If the characters you named have plot armor LT what does Morgan have because that dude should have died SO many times already! Is it showrunner petitis? He’s definitely got that golden child air to him.
Dakota is definitely the psychopath of the family! Ha.
Stop killing my Madison dreams LT. Ha!
LOL to Texas: the land of magic batteries! 🙂
“Why is Morgan the only person who can end Ginny?” “Because.” – sad facts. 🙁 It’s that showrunner petitis flaring up! “Morgan Jones you are the one” – to end this show I agree. Ha. He basically killed it in a large part with season four already!
The scene with June at the end was unnecessary, again that was just pain to add to pain because there was no reason to have it be her who killed him after we already saw him get shot.
Thanks for sharing your feelings Brian! 👏
Here’s another pitch – just use the canoe to go down or up river some, get off at a clear spot, and go around the zombie pile. There’s honestly no reason to clear that bridge unless you’re going to drive through with a caravan later!
Okay, here’s the thing about Dakota and John asking was her freedom worth a man’s life, if you’re say 15 like Dakota (assuming her age) and a good bit of your formative years was spent zombie killing an before that she has her parents dying and who knows what their home life was like you can kind of get how violence is the answer she goes for most…how it’s literally business to her more than personal necessarily. Also just assuming she’s someone who’s not violence prone and wants out of Lawton – he could stop her which is taking her freedom and her freedom is important to her so yes it is worth his life to her! Also who is John to ask that when he was killing Rangers left and right to make it so they kept their freedom and safety at the Gulch? It felt hypocritical of him honestly. Sure you can say Dakota should have told him she’d take him and the girl with her and then split when they were out, but it’s also easier for one to run than 3 not to be caught you know? I’m not saying she shouldn’t be judged for the killing but I also get why yes she would kill him if he threatened her freedom. Just think of it as a hostage situation – would John blame a victim who shot their kidnapper in an attempt to escape? If no then why is he asking Dakota was her freedom worth the guy’s life?
No season for this series is as bad as the garbage that was season four.
I kind of think Dakota was surprised by the fact she shot John and only pushed him off to cover that up because she does kind of drop the gun some and she gets this shocked look on her face for a moment so I think she may have discharged it subconsciously if that makes sense not because she was really ready to fire in that moment. That could just be me though.
I agree Glinis, how does a 15 year old patch up someone with a almost point blank gunshot wound? Okay she may know some stuff but enough to save him? It’s very suspect. She’s neither taught by June or June level in skill!
Again, any time you see the show go over a hour for time you know something is going down. Ha!
They’re not going to kill Grace until the baby is born, as much sense as it would make for Ginny or anyone to shoot her a a bargaining chip very few shows have the guts to shoot a pregnant person no matter how in line with the story it is.
It does have Ruben in the credits but seriously how often do we see him? He doesn’t have screen time like he did at the very start and heck Sherry who just joined has had about as much screen time as he has had all season if not more. Contract wise he might not be a guest but screen time wise he’s a special guest star now.
If they had killed June then killed John later because Garrett wanted out then you could have John say dying was ok because he was going to see June and so you get some happy in the messed up world as it were; true you can still do that with June saying it when her death comes but it won’t have the same punch I feel as if John went last given he’s such a fan favorite. June is an interesting character and people like her but they don’t love her like people seem to have loved John for his good natured ways.
According to a BING search – “Unlike sociopaths, psychopaths are unable to form emotional attachments. Psychopaths tend to be aggressive and predatory in nature.”…Dakota could honestly go either way but I feel she probably leans more psychopath than sociopath.