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STDP 047 – Ephraim and Dot/The Girl Who Made the Stars (Short Treks S2E4/S2E5) The Star Trek Discovery Podcast
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Star Trek: Discovery – Short Treks, Season 2 Episodes 4 & 5: Ephraim and Dot/The Girl Who Made the Stars
We’re back with not just another episode of The Star Trek Discovery Podcast! No, not at all! That’s because this is episode 47!!! This time, Ruthie and I cover the fourth and fifth Short Trek of Season 2: Ephraim and Dot, which was written by Chris Silvestri & Anthony Maranville, and directed by Michael Giacchino; and The Girl Who Made the Stars, which was written by Brandon Schultz and directed by Olatunde Osunsanmi. Both of these animated Short Treks were released Thursday, December 12, 2019.
We aren’t separating these…
We decided not to release these as separate episodes because we didn’t get a lot of feedback on them, especially The Girl Who Made the Stars. Therefore, we’re releasing them as a single episode.
Fred from The Netherlands was kind enough to collect a LOT of images for these Short Treks. Therefore, we use them to tell most of the story!
First of all, we have some feedback on the last two Short Treks…
We had feedback for the last two Short Treks and the episodes in which we covered them, The Trouble with Edward and Ask Not, so we start off with that.
Short Treks Season 2 Episode 4 – Ephraim and Dot
This one used two “characters” that were introduced on Star Trek: Discovery: The tardigrade from Season 1 (assuming it’s the same one), and the DOT-7 that we saw in the season finale of Season 2, Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2. It’s told in a Tom & Jerry style. We didn’t really agree about this episode. Ruthie didn’t care for it at all. I loved it, but I had one major continuity problem with the Short Trek. More on that in a bit.
We start with black and white images…
To start, we get an old film to start with. Would they have this in the 23rd Century? I don’t think so because that’s not even a thing today, but that’s a minor point. We begin…
I missed a reference…
I totally missed this one! Thanks, Fred! It’s the salt creature from The Man Trap, which was the first episode of Star Trek aired in the U.S., September 8, 1966.
Then, we get color, and it’s the Enterprise!
Look!!! It’s the Enterprise, TOS style (mostly)! Continuity gaffe? It’s got the struts of the Enterprise from Star Trek: Discovery, but I’m going to let that slide. Considering the look of the Enterprise in Discovery, I think it’s a minor point but it can also be considered a retcon.
It’s Kirk and Khan!
Does the Enterprise have a laundry chute?
More blasts from the TOS past!
No bloody A, B, C, or… D!!!
They made a big continuity error, labeling the refit Enterprise as the NCC-1701-A. It isn’t. The refit Enterprise we see in the first three films is the NCC-1701, no bloody A, B, C, or D.
That ship is the one that battles against the Reliant and orbits the Genesis planet, as shown below.
That ship is also the one that fights against the Klingon Bird of Prey and was destroyed via auto-destruct in Star Trek III: The Search for Spock.
The NCC-1701-A is first seen at the end of Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, and that’s the starship we see in Star Trek V and VI. That, to me, was a major continuity error that I couldn’t get past. I mellowed on this since I first watched it, but that was a goof that should have never happened. Ruthie, on the other hand, took exception to that one. She thought that it was no big deal.
Oh no! The tardigrade eggs!!!
Short Treks Season 2 Episode 5 – The Girl Who Made the Stars
This one had potential, but it felt rushed to me. I liked it but thought it had some flaws. On the other hand, Ruthie didn’t care for this one at all. In fact, she liked this Short Trek even less than the first one. We didn’t get a lot of feedback for it either. In other words, this episode didn’t seem to excite our listeners, or us.
A tardigrade appeared here, too…
Neither of us mentioned it in the podcast, but did you notice that Michael’s stuffed animal is a tardigrade?
This doesn’t look much like Kenric Green to me…
I didn’t feel like Mike Burnham didn’t look much like Kenric Green, who played Mike Burnham on the show.
Look at that badge!
Mike Burnham has a Section 31 badge on. This image doesn’t show it that well, but it’s a Section 31 badge, mostly black with silver on one side. You can’t really see the silver part in this image, but it’s there. Therefore, if you consider this canon (Ruthie doesn’t), Mike Burnham was Section 31. Sorry, I captured this image, so I don’t have a time reference.
She leaves the village…
Finally, we get the moral of the story…
That’s it for Ephraim and Dot & The Girl Who Made the Stars!
So, that’s it for this episode! In conclusion, Ruthie didn’t like either episode and thought they were a waste of time. However, I loved one and liked the other, but were disappointed with aspects of both. Next time, we will be back with news and the final Short Trek, Children of Mars. Most importantly, remember to subscribe to The Star Trek Picard Cast! We plan to record a Picard episode next!