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STDP 041 – Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (S2E14, 3 of 3)

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STDP 041 - Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (S2E14, 3 of 3)
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Star Trek: Discovery – Season 2, Episode 14: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 – Feedback and News (3 of 3)

For episode 41 of The Star Trek Discovery Podcast, Ruthie and I complete our discussion of Season 2 Episode 14 of Star Trek: Discovery, which is titled, Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2. This episode was written by Michelle Paradise & Jenny Lumet & Alex Kurtzman, and directed by Olatunde Osunsanmi. For this episode, we go through voicemails and other general feedback, our notes, and news.

Third of three

This is our third and final podcast covering this episode. We recommend that you start our coverage of the season finale by listening to episode 39, and then listen to episode 40. In episode 39, we go over feedback from the previous episode, and also ratings and Yeses. In episode 40, we cover Nos and Hold Your Horses.

Fred’s Pics!

Like the last episode, the images were chosen by Fred from The Netherlands, including the cover image. We let Fred’s pics do the talking for us! We have a supersized amount of pics for this episode, divided between this episode and last week’s episode 40, with a few pics in episode 39. These pictures cover the second half of the episode.

What we thought about Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2…

After a week, I still love the episode, but I am more sensitive to its flaws and maybe it’s not quite as good as I originally thought. Why couldn’t they beam out Cornwell? Why would Control break down after Leland is neutralized? For that matter, why didn’t Control go after Burnham? How was Ash able to be on the Chancellor’s ship, leading the fight? How did the Kelpiens go from their primitive state to piloting fighters in such a short time? These are all nitpicks to me, though, and don’t affect my ultimate rating, at least that much.

Ford Pinto!

A couple of things I mentioned in the episode were the Ford Pinto and the AVE Mizar. But one thing I didn’t realize about the AVE Mizar during the recording was that the inventors of the “roadable aircraft” were killed in a test flight. I don’t feel so great about making fun of it anymore, because of knowing those unfortunate circumstances.

That’s it for Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2!

We are taking a well-deserved hiatus. We plan to be back sometime in June. At that time, we plan to do a Season 2 roundtable episode. We’ll cover other feedback we haven’t had a chance to answer yet, and any other feedback we get on these last three episodes after that. While you can respond to this episode or the previous two, so we will not be covering any feedback received until episode 42 at the earliest, but probably not until episode 43 or 44.

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And now, here’s a visual look at Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2!

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (33:44) - Michael setting her Red Angel targets.
Michael setting her Red Angel targets. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (33:44)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (34:05) - The Red Angel's wings unfold.
The Red Angel’s wings unfold. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (34:05)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (34:23) - Time bubble.
Time bubble. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (34:23)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (34:30) - Michael pulled into the time portal.
Michael pulled into the time portal. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (34:30)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (34:58) - Michael time traveling.
Michael time traveling. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (34:58)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (36:43) - Michael & Michael as a reflection in the helmet.
Michael & Michael as a reflection in the helmet. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (36:43)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (37:47) - Leland looking vicious.
Leland looking vicious. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (37:47)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (39:36) - Georgiou spitting Leland in the face.
Georgiou spitting Leland in the face. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (39:36)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (40:27) - Michael and Saru's & Siranna's reflection in the helmet.
Michael and Saru’s & Siranna’s reflection in the helmet. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (40:27)

Goodbye to Cornwell…

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (41:25) - Una & Admiral Cornwell saying goodbye (forever).
Una & Admiral Cornwell saying goodbye (forever). – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (41:25)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (41:45) - Klingon D-7 arriving.
Klingon D-7 arriving. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (41:45)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (42:02) - (In Klingon) Destroy those who would harm your Chancellor!
(In Klingon) Destroy those who would harm your Chancellor! – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (42:02)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (42:24) - Michael and the time crystal's reflection in the helmet.
Michael and the time crystal’s reflection in the helmet. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (42:24)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (42:51) - Michael and Po's device as a reflection in the helmet.
Michael and Po’s device as a reflection in the helmet. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (42:51)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (43:49) - I'll send the sixth signal, like the North Star, that's what this is.
I’ll send the sixth signal, like the North Star, that’s what this is. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (43:49)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (44:13) - An unequal fight, Leland having short hair and Georgiou's long hair.
An unequal fight, Leland having short hair and Georgiou’s long hair. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (44:13)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (44:20) - Georgiou & Leland fighting in Engineering.
Georgiou & Leland fighting in Engineering. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (44:20)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (44:41) - Georgiou locked Leland into the spore cube.
Georgiou locked Leland into the spore cube. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (44:41)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (44:43) - Georgiou locked Leland into the spore cube.
Georgiou locked Leland into the spore cube. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (44:43)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (46:08) - Chris, whatever your path may be, you can handle it.
Chris, whatever your path may be, you can handle it. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (46:08)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (46:42) - The last second of Admiral Cornwell.
The last second of Admiral Cornwell. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (46:42)

They must leave without Spock…

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (48:00) - I just got you back, I don't want to let go.
I just got you back, I don’t want to let go. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (48:00)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (48:02) - Neither... do I.
Neither… do I. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (48:02)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (50:15) - Leland trying to get out of the spore cube.
Leland trying to get out of the spore cube. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (50:15)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (51:28) - Somebody owes me a beer.
Somebody owes me a beer. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (51:28)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (52:08) - Wings unfolding.
Wings unfolding. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (52:08)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (52:24) - The Red Angel flies towards the wormhole.
The Red Angel flies towards the wormhole. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (52:24)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (52:29) - The U.S.S. Discovery flying towards the wormhole.
The U.S.S. Discovery flying towards the wormhole. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (52:29)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (52:41) - The USS Discovery flying towards the 6th red signal.
The USS Discovery flying towards the 6th red signal. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (52:41)
STDP 041 - Star Trek: Discovery - S2E14 - (53:19) Goodbye my friends my family
Goodbye, my friends my family. – STDP 041 – Star Trek: Discovery – S2E14 – (53:19)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (53:54) - Leland screaming.
Leland screaming. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (53:54)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (54:59) - Siranna in a Ba'ul fighter.
Siranna in a Ba’ul fighter. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (54:59)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (55:10) - Ash thinking of Michael when she flies into the wormhole.
Ash thinking of Michael when she flies into the wormhole. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (55:10)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (55:25) - Spock watching Burnham and the Discovery go into the wormhole.
Spock watching Burnham and the Discovery go into the wormhole. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (55:25)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (55:33) - Reno.
Reno. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (55:33)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (55:48) - The U.S.S. Discovery enters the wormhole.
The U.S.S. Discovery enters the wormhole. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (55:48)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (56:11) - Tilly enters the wormhole.
Tilly enters the wormhole. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (56:11)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (56:27) - Last look at the U.S.S. Discovery.
Last look at the U.S.S. Discovery. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (56:27)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (56:48) - A damaged U.S.S. Enterprise on its way home.
A damaged U.S.S. Enterprise on its way home. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (56:48)

An inquiry

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (56:56) - Shuttle flying by the Golden Gate Bridge.
Shuttle flying by the Golden Gate Bridge. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (56:56)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (57:53) - I saw Discovery explode.
I saw Discovery explode. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (57:53)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (58:03) - For the third time, yeah, anything else?
For the third time, yeah, anything else? – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (58:03)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (58:33) - We would like to remove the 'Acting' from your title.
We would like to remove the ‘Acting’ from your title. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (58:33)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (59:14) - I'm eager to hear your recommendations, Lieutenant.
I’m eager to hear your recommendations, Lieutenant. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (59:14)

In space dock…

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (59:25) - These events must be ordered never to speak of Discovery.
These events must be ordered never to speak of Discovery. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (59:25)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:00:18) - U.S.S. Enterprise in space dock.
U.S.S. Enterprise in space dock. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:00:18)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:00:24) - U.S.S. Enterprise in space dock.
U.S.S. Enterprise in space dock. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:00:24)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:00:41) - Amanda & Spock.
– Amanda & Spock. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:00:41)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:01:14) - Every night, I look to the stars for your signal.
Every night, I look to the stars for your signal. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:01:14)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:02:14) - Spock to the bridge.
Spock to the bridge. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:02:14)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:02:19) - Pike amazed about Spock's appearance.
Pike amazed about Spock’s appearance. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:02:19)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:02:42) - It looks like it's in the Beta Quadrant.
It looks like it’s in the Beta Quadrant. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:02:42)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:02:51) - The location of the seventh signal 51,000 light-years from our present position.
The location of the seventh signal 51,000 light-years from our present position. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:02:51)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:02:55) - I'll run the analytics.
I’ll run the analytics. – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:02:55)
STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (63.58) - HIT IT!
HIT IT! – STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:03.58)

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