The Star Trek Discovery Podcast

Hosted ByBrian Meloche & Ruthie Rink

The Star Trek: Discovery Podcast is an in-depth discussion about Star Trek: Discovery, shown weekly on CBS All Access in the U.S., Space in Canada and Netflix everywhere else. We're Brian Meloche and Ruthie Rink, two long-time Star Trek fans, and each episode we analyze the story, characters, and the show’s placement in the Star Trek universe. Our listeners are very important to us, and your feedback is an essential part of this podcast. Thanks for listening!

STDP 038 – Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1 (S2E13)

Star Trek: Discovery – Season 2, Episode 13: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1

For episode 38 of The Star Trek Discovery Podcast, Ruthie and I discuss Season 2 Episode 13 of Star Trek: Discovery, which is titled, Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1. This episode was written by Michelle Paradise & Jenny Lumet & Alex Kurtzman, and it was directed by Olatunde Osunsanmi. All are either co-executive producers or executive producers. Jenny Lumet & Alex Kurtzman co-wrote the first Short Trek, Runaway, and Michelle Paradise has been promoted to co-showrunner for Season 3 along with Kurtzman. This episode is part one of a two-part finale.

Discussion on Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1 begins at 6:04…

We begin the podcast with a little feedback about our previous episode, covering S2E12 Through the Valley of Shadows. We get into this episode 6 minutes 4 seconds into the podcast.

Fred’s Pics!

We have been blessed yet again with pics chosen by Fred from The Netherlands, including the cover image. We let Fred’s pics do the talking for us!

Before you look at pics from Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1…

We both loved this episode, and it was probably one of the best ones of the series. That said, though we rated it highly, it does have flaws, such as where you see the seams where they stretched it from a one-parter to a two-parter, but this is one where the episode is greater than the sum of its parts. We’ll be back next week with our next episode on the season finale. As always, your feedback is essential to this podcast! We’ve had a short feedback deadline most weeks this season.

We’ll cover more feedback from S2E13 Such Sweet Sorrow, so do not hesitate to send in your feedback if you miss the deadline. For Star Trek: Discovery S2E14, which is titled Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (we think that’s the title) the deadline to get in your feedback is Friday, April 19, 2019, at 6 PM Eastern/5 PM Central or 10 PM UTC. You can submit feedback via the Feedback page, Facebook Group, Twitter, you can email startrekgsm at gmail dot com, or call the voicemail at (216) 236-5449 and leave us a message there. Make sure to mention you’re calling The Star Trek Discovery Podcast when you call. We would like to keep our episodes down to a more reasonable podcast length. To help with this, we’d like you to focus on a few key points, rather than discussing everything about the episode. If submitting a voicemail, please try to keep your calls to 4 minutes or less, with an absolute maximum of 5 minutes. We would like to keep our episodes under 2 hours! Please help with that!

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And now, here’s a visual look at Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1!

Cold Open

STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (02:00) - Sarek & Amanda on the beach.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (02:00) – Sarek & Amanda on the beach.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (02:43) - Tilly deciding what to take.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (02:43) – Tilly deciding what to take.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (02:49) - Siranna's flower knife.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (02:49) – Siranna’s flower knife.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (03:01) - USS Discovery & USS Enterprise.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (03:01) – USS Discovery & USS Enterprise.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (03:25) - Detmer's workstation (the helm).
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (03:25) – Detmer’s workstation (the helm).
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (03:41) - Evacuation corridors deploying.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (03:41) – Evacuation corridors deploying.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (03:57) - Evacuation corridors deploying.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (03:57) – Evacuation corridors deploying.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (06:20) - Michael touches the time crystal.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (06:20) – Michael touches the time crystal.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (06:23) - Michael getting visions of a possible future.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (06:23) – Michael getting visions of a possible future.

Act 1

STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (06:39) - Saru verifies the remote autodestruct order.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (06:39) – Saru verifies the remote autodestruct order.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (06:42) - Pike verifies the remote autodestruct order.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (06:42) – Pike verifies the remote autodestruct order.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (06:58) - Pike & Saru walking through one of the evacuation corridors.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (06:58) – Pike & Saru walking through one of the evacuation corridors.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (07:10) - Enterprise's crammed corridors.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (07:10) – Enterprise’s crammed corridors.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (07:27) - The only right way to operate a turbolift.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (07:27) – The only right way to operate a turbolift.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (07:54) - She's all yours, Chris.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (07:54) – She’s all yours, Chris.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (09:45) - Autodestruct failure.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (09:45) – Autodestruct failure.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (11:08) - USS Discovery bridge being hit (Michael's vision).
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (11:08) – USS Discovery bridge being hit (Michael’s vision).
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (11:22) - The Red Devil entering the Discovery bridge (Michael's vision).
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (11:22) – The Red Devil entering the Discovery bridge (Michael’s vision).
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (11:30) - Leland shooting Nilsson (Michael's vision).
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (11:30) – Leland shooting Nilsson (Michael’s vision).
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (11:41) - Michael turning Georgiou's body to get her phaser (Michael's vision).
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (11:41) – Michael turning Georgiou’s body to get her phaser (Michael’s vision).
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (11:45) - Owosekun hiding (Michael's vision).
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (11:45) – Owosekun hiding (Michael’s vision).
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (12:01) - Leland stepping on Burnham's phaser (Michael's vision).
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (12:01) – Leland stepping on Burnham’s phaser (Michael’s vision).
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (12:18) - Goodbye Burnham (Michael's vision).
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (12:18) – Goodbye Burnham (Michael’s vision).

Act 2

STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (15:24) - USS Enterprise meeting room.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (15:24) – USS Enterprise meeting room.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (17:13) - Pretty low odds of finding a red giant in a supernova state.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (17:13) – Pretty low odds of finding a red giant in a supernova state.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (17:42) - The fifth signal.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (17:42) – The fifth signal.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (17:46) - Burnham & Georgiou.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (17:46) – Burnham & Georgiou.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (17:54) - The USS Enterprise bridge at red alert.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (17:54) – The USS Enterprise bridge at red alert.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (19:06) - I-I-I know the queen of Xahea.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (19:06) – I-I-I know the queen of Xahea.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (19:59) - What? - Hmm, nothing.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (19:59) – What? – Hmm, nothing.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (21:08) - Forward motion.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (21:08) – Forward motion.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (22:33) - Po greets Tilly.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (22:33) – Po greets Tilly.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (22:48) - I just land up with goo.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (22:48) – I just land up with goo.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (22:50) - Fascinating.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (22:50) – Fascinating.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (22:56 & 22:58) - You look taller on your photos - Thank you.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (22:56 & 22:58) – You look taller on your photos – Thank you.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (23:06) - Wow, you're good.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (23:06) – Wow, you’re good.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (24:13 & 24:14) - I like you too.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (24:13 & 24:14) – I like you too.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (24:27) - I get to make a supernova. Today rocks.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (24:27) – I get to make a supernova. Today rocks.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (24:30) - Tilly being proud of Po.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (24:30) – Tilly being proud of Po.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (26:31) - Assuming I don't get lost in the wormhole, I will land up on Terralysium.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (26:31) – Assuming I don’t get lost in the wormhole, I will land up on Terralysium.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (26:48) - Are you sure there is no other way?
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (26:48) – Are you sure there is no other way?
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (27:23) - Eyes up for Commander Burnham.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (27:23) – Eyes up for Commander Burnham.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (28:34) - Tilly listening to Po.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (28:34) – Tilly listening to Po.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (29:09) - Tilly & Po in Engineering.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (29:09) – Tilly & Po in Engineering.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (29:41) - You're stuck with me.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (29:41) – You’re stuck with me.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (30:02) - Flinging yourself into the future like some galactic rubber band with a martyr complex.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (30:02) – Flinging yourself into the future like some galactic rubber band with a martyr complex.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (30:37) - Sarek & Amanda arriving on the USS Discovery.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (30:37) – Sarek & Amanda arriving on the USS Discovery.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (32:54) - For my failures I humbly ask both of you for forgiveness.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (32:54) – For my failures I humbly ask both of you for forgiveness.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (33:01) - Of course.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (33:01) – Of course.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (33:32) - We love you.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (33:32) – We love you.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (34:21) - Mom's time travel lesson.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (34:21) – Mom’s time travel lesson.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (35:07) - The bridge crew is not leaving Michael alone.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (35:07) – The bridge crew is not leaving Michael alone.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (35:34) - No, I can't let you do this.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (35:34) – No, I can’t let you do this.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (36:15) - Ash & Michael saying goodbye.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (36:15) – Ash & Michael saying goodbye.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (38:38) - Detmer's personal goodbye note.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (38:38) – Detmer’s personal goodbye note.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (40:52) - Lieutenant Spock… there aren't words.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (40:52) – Lieutenant Spock… there aren’t words.
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (44:10) - The mission's the mission, whatever I see.
STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (44:10) – The mission’s the mission, whatever I see.
I'm Terran, by the way, from your mirror universe. - STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (45:37)
I’m Terran, by the way, from your mirror universe. – STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (45:37)
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (45:57) - More Section 31 ships arrive.
More Section 31 ships arrive. – STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (45:57)
STDP 038 - Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (46:26) - We are surrounded.
We are surrounded. – STDP 038 – Star Trek Discovery S2E13 (46:26)

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