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STDP 037 – Through the Valley of Shadows (S2E12)

Star Trek Discovery Podcast, featuring Picard, Lower Decks, and Strange New Worlds
Star Trek Discovery Podcast, featuring Picard, Lower Decks, and Strange New Worlds
STDP 037 - Through the Valley of Shadows (S2E12)
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Star Trek: Discovery – Season 2, Episode 12: Through the Valley of Shadows

For episode 37 of The Star Trek Discovery Podcast, Ruthie and I discuss Season 2 Episode 12 of Star Trek: Discovery, which is titled, Through the Valley of Shadows. This episode was written by Bo Yeon Kim & Erika Lippoldt, and it was directed by Douglas Aarniokoski. This is the third time the writers have worked with Aarniokoski, as he also directed their Short Trek, The Brightest Star, and S2E6, The Sound of Thunder.

Discussion on Through the Valley of Shadows begins at 20:11…

We begin the podcast with feedback from the previous episode, and we had quite a lot of it. We get into this episode 20 minutes 11 seconds into the podcast.

Fred’s Pics!

We have been blessed yet again with pics chosen by Fred from The Netherlands, including the cover image. We thought last week’s experiment was a big hit, so we’re going to do it again, and let Fred’s pics do the talking for us!

Before you look at pics from Through the Valley of Shadows…

We both loved this episode, one of the better ones of Season 2. We’ll be back next week with our next episode. As always, your feedback is essential to this podcast! We’ve had a short feedback deadline most weeks this season. We’ll cover more feedback from S2E12 Through the Valley of Shadows, so do not hesitate to send in your feedback if you miss the deadline. For Star Trek: Discovery S2E13, which is titled Such Sweet Sorrow, the deadline to get in your feedback is Friday, April 12, 2019, at 6 PM Eastern/5 PM Central or 10 PM UTC. You can submit feedback via the Talk Through Media feedback page, Facebook Group, Twitter, you can email startrekgsm at gmail dot com, or call the voicemail at (216) 236-5449 and leave us a message there. Make sure to mention you’re calling The Star Trek Discovery Podcast when you call. We would like to keep our episodes down to a more reasonable podcast length. To help with this, we’d like you to focus on a few key points, rather than discussing everything about the episode. If submitting a voicemail, please try to keep your calls to 4 minutes or less, with an absolute maximum of 5 minutes. We would like to keep our episodes under 2 hours! Please help with that!

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And now, here’s a visual look at Through the Valley of Shadows!

Cold Open

Michael, I heard what happened. I'm so sorry. - STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery - S2E12 (01:57)
Michael, I heard what happened. I’m so sorry. – STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery – S2E12 (01:57)
The new signal appeared over the Klingon planet of Boreth. - STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery - S2E12 (02:45)
The new signal appeared over the Klingon planet of Boreth. – STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery – S2E12 (02:45)
Boreth is home to my son. - STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (06:23)
Boreth is home to my son. – STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (06:23)
I only wish you'd told me so you wouldn't have to carry it alone. - STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (07:10)
I only wish you’d told me so you wouldn’t have to carry it alone. – STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (07:10)
The monastery is considered the most sacred site in the Klingon Empire. - STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (08:23)
The monastery is considered the most sacred site in the Klingon Empire. – STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (08:23)
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (09:52) - I'm not yours to command (spoken in Klingon).
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (09:52) – I’m not yours to command (spoken in Klingon).
Huh, I thought it would take more convincing you. - STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (11:10)
Huh, I thought it would take more convincing you. – STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (11:10)
Boreth. - STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (11:51)
Boreth. – STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (11:51)
Boreth monk. - STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (12:13)
Boreth monk. – STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (12:13)
We are the Timekeepers, guardians, not rulers. - STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (12:43)
We are the Timekeepers, guardians, not rulers. – STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (12:43)
The only power that exists here is that of which we protect. - STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (12:50)
The only power that exists here is that of which we protect. – STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (12:50)
They are not ours to trade, Captain. - STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (12:59)
They are not ours to trade, Captain. – STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (12:59)
The U.S.S. Discovery over Boreth. - STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (15:00)
The U.S.S. Discovery over Boreth. – STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (15:00)
Mess hall jokes. - STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (15:07)
Mess hall jokes. – STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (15:07)
I haven't come up with any viable solutions. - STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (15:28)
I haven’t come up with any viable solutions. – STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (15:28)
Hugh entering the mess hall. - STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (16:30)
Hugh entering the mess hall. – STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (16:30)
Eat your protein and mind your business. - STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (16:41)
Eat your protein and mind your business. – STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (16:41)
I'm not angry, I'm enraged. - STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (19:18)
I’m not angry, I’m enraged. – STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (19:18)
Rage is the enemy of logic. - STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (19:24)
Rage is the enemy of logic. – STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (19:24)
The dead frozen crew of the Section 31 ship floating in space. - STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (20:21)
The dead frozen crew of the Section 31 ship floating in space. – STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (20:21)
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (20:36) - Transporting one alive Section 31 crew member.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (20:36) – Transporting one alive Section 31 crew member.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (21:19) - Michael is happy Kamran Gant survived.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (21:19) – Michael is happy Kamran Gant survived.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (24:16) - You are and will always be in love with Michael Burnham.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (24:16) – You are and will always be in love with Michael Burnham.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (24:49) - Tenavik & Pike walking towards the chamber with the time crystals.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (24:49) – Tenavik & Pike walking towards the chamber with the time crystals.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (24:58) - Tenavik & Pike at the pillar of the past.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (24:58) – Tenavik & Pike at the pillar of the past.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (25:18) - When the future becomes the past, the present will be unlocked.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (25:18) – When the future becomes the past, the present will be unlocked.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (25:27) - Tenavik opened the chamber with the time crystals.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (25:27) – Tenavik opened the chamber with the time crystals.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (25:53) - Tenavik & Pike entering the chamber with the time crystals.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (25:53) – Tenavik & Pike entering the chamber with the time crystals.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (26:11) - Lift the veil of the present and madness may follow.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (26:11) – Lift the veil of the present and madness may follow.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (26:39) - Pike's vision of his future (part 1).
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (26:39) – Pike’s vision of his future (part 1).
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (27:04) - Pike's vision of his future (part 2).
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (27:04) – Pike’s vision of his future (part 2).
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (27:49) - Pike's vision of his future (part 3).
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (27:49) – Pike’s vision of his future (part 3).
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (27:56) - Pike's vision of his future (part 4).
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (27:56) – Pike’s vision of his future (part 4).
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (28:04) - Pike's terrified by the vision of his own future.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (28:04) – Pike’s terrified by the vision of his own future.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (28:18) - If you take the crystal, your fate will be sealed, forever.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (28:18) – If you take the crystal, your fate will be sealed, forever.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (28:36) - You're a Starfleet captain, you believe in service, sacrifice, compassion & love.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (28:36) – You’re a Starfleet captain, you believe in service, sacrifice, compassion & love.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (29:34) - Pike and the time crystal.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (29:34) – Pike and the time crystal.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (29:56) - Spock, Gant & Burnham arriving on the Section 31 ship.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (29:56) – Spock, Gant & Burnham arriving on the Section 31 ship.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (31:01) - I need medical attention.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (31:01) – I need medical attention.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (31:17) - I'm an engineer, not a poet - Clearly.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (31:17) – I’m an engineer, not a poet – Clearly.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (32:32) - Thank God, you have a second chance, don't screw it up.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (32:32) – Thank God, you have a second chance, don’t screw it up.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (35:03) - If you touch that phaser, I'll cross the room in 0.8 seconds.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (35:03) – If you touch that phaser, I’ll cross the room in 0.8 seconds.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (36:31) - You are the most effective tool to acquire the Sphere archive.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (36:31) – You are the most effective tool to acquire the Sphere archive.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (37:45) - Burnham threatened by a Control needle.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (37:45) – Burnham threatened by a Control needle.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (37:51) - There is only one outcome.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (37:51) – There is only one outcome.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (38:07) - Vulcan nerve pinch would be effective if I still had nerve endings.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (38:07) – Vulcan nerve pinch would be effective if I still had nerve endings.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (38:37) - The AI is transforming.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (38:37) – The AI is transforming.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (38:39) - Gant leaking nanobots.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (38:39) – Gant leaking nanobots.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (38:46) - Burnham keeps firing and firing at Control Gant.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (38:46) – Burnham keeps firing and firing at Control Gant.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (39:00) - The transformed AI attacking Burnham.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (39:00) – The transformed AI attacking Burnham.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (39:23) - I apologize for being so slow.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (39:23) – I apologize for being so slow.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (39:49) - We've regained control of the ship.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (39:49) – We’ve regained control of the ship.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (40:59) - Tell me Captain, what did the monks ask in return?
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (40:59) – Tell me Captain, what did the monks ask in return?
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (42:00) - Tenavik, that is a good name.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (42:00) – Tenavik, that is a good name.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (42:01) - L'Rell & Tyler.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (42:01) – L’Rell & Tyler.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (43:29) - Captain, 30 Section 31 ships, nearly their entire fleet.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (43:29) – Captain, 30 Section 31 ships, nearly their entire fleet.
STDP 037 - Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (44:26) - We are evacuating Discovery.
STDP 037 – Star Trek Discovery S2E12 (44:26) – We are evacuating Discovery.

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