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FTWDTT 063 – Ner Tamid (S5E12)
Talking Through Ner Tamid
On this episode of Fear the Walking Dead Talk Through, Kyle, Mark, and I talk through Ner Tamid. Fear the Walking Dead Season 5 Episode 12 was written by the co-showrunners, Andrew Chambliss & Ian Goldberg, and directed by the show’s lead director, co-executive producer Michael E. Satrazemis.
We start with a discussion of the last episode… that also discusses this one
Like last week’s episode, we found ourselves relating Aaron’s feedback on the previous episode relating to the episode we had just seen. I’ll make the same recommendation this time out to listen to it to pick up some insights on Ner Tamid. Discussion about this episode, in particular, begins at 21 minutes 1 seconds into the episode.
A better episode than last week…
I think the consensus was that we liked this one more than last week’s episode. It wasn’t without its flaws but it was still better. Perhaps it was John and June? I don’t know, but whenever those two are in it, the episode seems better.
It still wasn’t perfect. In particular, I thought the scene with Rabbi Jacob telling Charlie the truth about losing his faith and why he left was good, but it was ill-timed, and it kind of hurt the rest of the story in general. That said, we all thought that Rabbi Jacob was a much more sympathetic character than Father Gabriel was on the main show! I remembered the famous supplemental episode where Ruthie and I ranted for 35 minutes on Gabriel’s actions in Spend!
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Please leave your feedback! We got a TON of feedback again this week, so keep it comin’! Next time, we’ll cover any additional feedback we get for S5E12 Ner Tamid, and then talk through Fear the Walking Dead, Season 5 Episode 13, titled Leave What You Don’t. Get your feedback in by 6 PM Eastern/5 PM Central on Tuesday, September 10, 2019. One of the best ways to submit feedback is on our Facebook group. You can also send us an email at our new address walkingdeadtalkthrough@gmail.com or call our temporary voicemail at 216-236-5449.
Ratings are WAY down…
We didn’t have the ratings yet when we recorded Tuesday night. Normally, Sunday night cable ratings come in on Tuesday morning, but when it’s a holiday weekend, ratings come in a day later, and they are usually down quite a bit. This weekend, people (at least in Florida, where I live) were glued to their TVs to watch the progress of Hurricane Dorian, so that probably didn’t help ratings much. S5E12 Ner Tamid Here got a 0.29 in the 18-49 demographic, with 1.141 million viewers, which is way down from last week’s 0.43 and 1.435 million viewers.
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I get what you’re saying about armchair quarterbacking and behind the scenes issues, but still some aspects feel like easy tweaks which could make episodes so much better; for example had Wes taken the book but Alicia still found the paint cans it could have played the same largely but also better arguably or had Wes just said he knew the guy from before the line about wanting to finish the book would have made more sense instead of feeling random. I can fully believe people in this world would have things they still want to keep private and close even with the group, look how long it took Strand to tell people about the boat or June to tell Alicia the truth about why she was always running. Maybe those little tweaks are still big things to get oked in the moment so again we shouldn’t be too hard on the writers but still it seems doable to have a line here or there or do an action here or there that leads to a more cohesive episode; 10 seconds cut from someone staring into space or an action scene where they survive can be added to another scene that adds to the content because of a line or action.
It’s a hard job yes, but I don’t think they should just be let completely off the hook either unless they’re going to give us a play by play of their day to show why it was impossible to get on screen but maybe that’s just me.
They had a nice temporary to decent long term base – it was called the mall!
I fully agree Brian, Charlie and the rabbi could have gone for the SWAT while John and June were distracting the walkers, even if they had to deal with a few on the way it was less than John and June had to deal with and if they did it quietly why couldn’t they have made it to help them? Again writing for plot not realistic character actions arguably which is again why I can’t give the writers a full pass on episode handling.
I don’t know who Father Gabriel is obviously, but I’m liking Rabbi Jacob so far! I’m calling it now – he’s going to marry John and June.
Never accept questionable elements Kyle!
It’s going to be interesting to see who narced if you will about the field location on the tapes.